In this episode of Talking Sense the panel gathers together in person for the first time in London.

The conversation starts with the startling idea that Johannesburg is a better city for a young professional to make a life in than London. Frans Cronje argues that Johannesburg affords young professionals a much higher standard of living for a fraction of the cost of London, much better healthcare, and a path to home ownership - which in London is now all but impossible, and also that South Africa is a more free society for people who think for themselves. Richard Tren counters that the Johannesburg vs London argument needs to better weigh the incredibly high rates of violent crime in South Africa.

The conversation then moves on to the panel's experience of the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship (ARC) conference, or what is seen as the "Davos of the right". They explain how ARC's global vision is based on the idea that the sovereign value of an individual is the most sacred building block of society, and not the Davos top-down vision of compelled acquiescence to elite consensus.

In the discussion on ARC the panel explains how the conference put forward great arguments on energy and the use of hydrocarbons in the energy system but how the mainstream media and Western political debates on climate are geared to drive fear at odds with scientific evidence.

The panel also talks on how nuts the West has got on gender ideology and references the heroic case of Sall Grover and her fight to protect women in Australia and the mad Tickle vs Giggle case in that country.

Using a swallows analogy gleaned in an Oxford pub James Myburgh explains why the West went mad on climate and culture.

The conversation then turns to South Africa with Frans explaining whether the country will blow up on 30 June, whether the DA will exit the GNU, and why half of municipalities are bankrupt.

The panel also explains why The Common Sense absolutely nailed its oil price forecast at odds with almost every major global institution.

The panel ends on Keir Starmer's resignation as Prime Minister of The United Kingdom. They assess his presumed heir: Andy Burnham - and explain that much more than a change of leadership is necessary to turn beleaguered Britain around.