Bongani Baloyi, the MKP's mayoral candidate for Johannesburg, is the first guest from that party to be a guest on Conversations with Gabriel. Current polling from The Common Sense and the SRF shows that the MKP is now polling level with the ANC in Johannesburg, and is at two-thirds of the ANC's black support nationally. Bongani explains how and why the ANC left the space open for that to happen. Bongani also tells Gabriel what the MKP would actually do with the city, why the party has ruled out working with the DA, and the case he makes to investors and the middle class.