In this clip from Talking Sense, the panel discusses new polling from the Social Research Foundation and The Common Sense, which shows the DA, ActionSA, and the FF+ could together get over the line in both Johannesburg and Tshwane, a coalition with no liberation movement party in it. Gabriel Makin asks whether that can happen, and the panel asks how long “liberation movement” will mean anything. Frans Cronje’s alternative: an ANC and DA deal, with the bigger party as the senior partner wherever the two can govern together. Then James Myburgh explains why he is sceptical that anyone can clean up Johannesburg or Tshwane in a coalition given the entrenched patronage networks in the metros.