In this clip Dr Frans Cronje and Dr James Myburgh engage about the current state of the DA and what is to be done. They start by exploring Siviwe Gwarube's mishandling of a fraudulent education tender. Then they discuss the second reprimand John Steenhuisen has received in court over his handling of the Foot and Mouth Disease outbreak. And they finish the comedy of errors with a story in which the DA's communication minister was caught using AI hallucinations in a draft policy to regulate AI! After going through these stories James and Frans question what the point is for the DA to be in the GNU if they find themselves only in government but not in power. The discussion ends with Frans explaining how he thinks the DA should actually be trying to leverage the positions it holds in government.